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I’d like to stay with my thread on culling, with the focus this week on birds of prey, an area close to all of our hearts.We’re all aware that many of our birds suffer at Man’s hand, more often than not through loss of habitat due to farming practice, or the reclamation of land for development, etc Birds such as the goldfinch, traditionally a bird of farmland, now also come looking to our feeders to supplement their natural diet, but, of all our birds I think there is sufficient cause to believe that our birds of prey have fared the worst at Man’s actions.

RED KITE
Many of our raptor species find the struggle for survival difficult enough on its own, but so many of them (too many) have suffered through persecution over the years, some to the brink of extinction, the Osprey, Red Kite, Golden Eagle, White Tailed Sea Eagle, all spring to mind. Fortunately, we can witness for ourselves the resurgence of populations of particularly the Osprey & Red Kite, with some help from Man admittedly, in terms of translocation projects such as took place at Rutland, and with the erecting of nest platforms, we are now seeing the Osprey increase their range throughout the country, adding to the huge successes we see in Scotland. The Red KIte has also increased its range with many areas now boasting “Friends Of The Red Kite” type groups, all working to improve the well-being of these birds and to secure their breeding success for the future. But perhaps the most critically affected bird of prey is the Hen Harrier, whose numbers are declining alarmingly right across its range. Here in the ISLE OF MAN, we boast the largest Hen Harrier roost in western Europe, but even their numbers are down by about 50% in recent years Persecution is a huge contributing factor in the stark decline in numbers of birds of prey, but why is this so? why are these birds so reviled? and perhaps pointedly, by who? 
HEN HARRIER (courtesy of Wiki}
The answers I think, are manifold. In the case of the hen harrier, they are unfortunate that in some areas of their range, their chosen habitat is heather moorland, which often lies within managed estates that support game shooting of grouse and pheasant, The buzzard, certainly in Scotland, also falls into this category, and now some farmers and estate managers are up in arms because buzzards predate their birds, and so they are calling for a cull to reduce numbers.

LADDIE
Elsewhere, Eagles are much maligned by claims, (again from the farming fraternity), that Eagles take their sheep.
Two years ago in Bowland, Lancashire, calls for a cull of Eagle Owls were made on the back of claims that they were responsible for the decline in hen harrier numbers. Unsurprisingly, no convincing evidence has ever been produced to support these claims, and it is my view that objections were made on the basis of the eagle owl being an introduced, rather than indigenous, species, for which there have been several counter claims to the contrary. 
EAGLE OWL
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The list is extensive, and we are faced with the calls for organised culls of certain species, and even worse, every week our attention is drawn to the cruel and needless poisoning of several species of raptors, about 50% of which are with the banned chemical, CARBUFERON. These attacks are cruel, premeditated, and mindless, yet because of the way in which the wildlife crime system is structured, many of the perpetrators escape the wrath of the law, or receive what we would consider inadequate punishments. This must surely be addressed.

RED KITE
So, returning to the question I pose as the title of this post, is there any justification in the culling of birds and other animals? It seems to me that certain groups of people, driven by their respective vested interests, want to see birds of prey eradicated at any cost. I think that extensive research should be undertaken in every case, in order to examine every possible alternative course of action. But this is not always the case – so often, expert advice is discarded and a cull set in place regardless, as we are now seeing with the imminent badger cull. Also, I think it’s important that conservation groups need to work more closely with the likes of the farming community, to find compromise solutions so that both the habitats, and the respective bird populations may be safeguarded to the mutual benefit of all parties. 
PEREGRINE FALCON
Arguably the biggest, and certainly the most recognised of the country’s conservation organisations is the RSPB, who work tirelessly on behalf of wildlife, were themselves recently openly criticised in a Guardian article, with the article’s author, MAGNUS LINKLATER, suggesting that they have made themselves unpopular by making birds of prey a kind of “flagship” species, and have fallen foul of farmers and landowners due to their criticism of farming practice and the like, instead of working more closely with them towards satisfactory solutions to the issues at hand. The organisation effectively stands accused of over protecting birds of prey at the expense of other, more threatened species, merely because they are our most glamorous and dramatic birds. It is however, a balanced article, and reinforces the point that both sides are guilty of pursuing their own interests, and need to find some common ground upon which to build, after all, they do need to keep farmers on side in their efforts to promote the management of wildlife friendly areas within their estates. A link to the article….. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/aug/12/why-claws-are-out-for-royal-society-for-protection-of-birds For my own part, I am firmly against the notion of the organised culling of animals and birds, and would sooner see more agreeable solutions found wherever possible. However, there are areas where I find myself at odds with my own conscience. The deer culling in Scotland is the main example of this. I became more aware of the culling when I was on Mull last year, and because of the lack of a natural predator, or predators, of the deer, their numbers are free to increase exponentially, so although I don’t like the thought of them being killed, I can see and understand the dilemma they have, especially within the confines of a small island. 
WHITE TAILED EAGLE, MULL
Where the buzzard is concerned, I have to confess to being both amused, and bemused by the attitude of the landowners at the head of the queue calling for the buzzards’ heads. Consider both sides of the argument – when the thousands of pheasants are released, the buzzards show up for a free lunch. The pheasant is an introduced species, the buzzard a native species. The buzzard breeds in the wild, it’s natural state. The pheasant is purposely bred. The huge, and inescapable irony here, the stick in the spokes of the argument, is that the landowners complain vociferously when the buzzards feed on their pheasants, a bird they breed in great numbers…….specifically…….to be shot!!!! Is it just the fact that the buzzard doesn’t pay for the privilege that gets their backs up??!! A couple of article links……
The last English Hen Harrier? | NewsThe last English Hen Harrier? The future for England’s most threatened bird of prey – Hen Harrier – is looking bleak, as the species teeters on the brink of extinction as a breeding bird. Early reports indicate that only one pair of the species is showing signs of nesting in England.

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Good morning all and thank you Nick for a splendid post today.
I have many questions on this subject and am sure others do too! My first would be WHY do people feel that culling should be the ONLY means of eradicating a problem. Have they truly looked at other measures of control and taken them all into account in order to dismiss them? There are too many people in some countries so perhaps we should cull man also!
I am totally against culling of any kind, wildlife is WILD LIFE and my own opinion is that it should be left to a natural demise. Wildlife inhabited this planet long before we ever did so what gives us the power to think that we can take it over and take it out. Are we better than nature? Nature will be around far longer than we will so why can’t those that feel they have a problem to deal with, deal with it in an alternative way.
The pheasant shoot is a prime example of man taking over. As Nick has said above, pheasants were introduced as ornamental birds. Why take out the natural predators such as our beautiful buzzards just for people to enjoy a sport that they have created as a pastime. I know that the bird is not ‘wasted’ and becomes a source of food but that doesn’t make it any better.
The proposed badger cull is another. For decades we have prosecuted badger baiters and those involved (when caught) and now we are as good as giving them the freedom to go ahead and slaughter. If this does get the green light then it will not always be undertaken in a humane way. Those that enjoy the ‘sport’ of badger slaughter will revel in the new found freedom to be able to do as they like and not be prosecuted for it.
Can contraception not be used (no durex jokes please I’m being serious here), what about spraying crops with a contraceptive substance that stops the females from coming into season and thereby reducing the colonies that way. Oh, I forgot – yes, it will be TOO COSTLY. As if enough money isn’t wasted in other sectors.
I’m sure today’s post will spark a debate and I’d better get that bee out of my bonnet and off my high horse before someone decides to push me off! (or shoot me) xx
Good morning Shirley, well said exactly what I would like to say but you put it
so much better. Not sure though about contraception, that possibly might push
things too far in the other direction and we lose too many birds. I am a great
believer in leaving things to nature, its like having a problem that troubles you
my philosophy now is to leave making a decision and it usually sorts itself out
possibly a bit flippant but it usually works. As for permitting culling that
also will get out of hand and any Tom Dick or Harry will think it is permissable
to shoot what they like.
Dx
Shirley thank you for saying so well what I think as well. I totally agree with you. You have put it so much better than I could xxx
NICK – thank you for this morning’s excellent post,and, as Shirley says, one which is bound to spark a debate here.
Most of the culling seems to be down to man’s usual greed and selfishness.
With regard to the hen harriers, I had a feeling I read somewhere that they have been trying to supplement their feeding in order to reduce the problems on the grouse moorlands – please correct me if I am wrong – but it does seem a step in the right direction, rather than culling.
Some years ago they wanted to cull hedgehogs (sorry, my great love again!) on Uist due to the fact they were thought to be predating birds eggs
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/feb/20/animalrights.conservationandendangeredspecies
Now, of course, there is the worrying decline in hedgehogs too.
Morning Marion, yes, I’ve also read that efforts are being made in some areas to introduce an alternative food source for the harriers, to ease the problem. It’s a sad indictment when cost is the driver in many of these issues, because only the short term is usually considered, which is false economy when it doesn’t effect a long term solution. What needs to happen is for the conservationists to sit down with the farmers and land owners to agree to properly effective long term solutions, which address the concerns of all parties, without recourse to culling. At least in some areas this is being implemented, so lets hope it catches on and we may start to see some results!
Regarding the deer, I understand that there are plans to reintroduce the Lynx in Scotland, partly with a view to providing a natural predator of the deer – this could be an interesting proposal, though I’m sure there will be opposition from some quarters!
NICK a great post this morning and I can see a healthy debate taking
place today, thanks for the hard work involved.
Dx
Protests as live animal exports resume at Ramsgate:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-20001447
Glenelgs on Earth and Mars to be twinned:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-19976650
Owner of kitten found on Aberdeenshire road sought:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-20002828
Totally wrong that the judge has now allowed the transport of live animals out
of Ramsgate in view of the disgusting state in which many have been found recently.
I think the decision Thanet Council took was humane and commendable and should not
have been overruled by a lone Judge, obviously money involved again.
Poor little kitty, seems like he was turfed out, surely if he had escaped the
owners would have found him before he ventured onto a busy road.
Thanks for the links Marion.
Dx
Terrible news about Ramsgate allowing the export of animals again, really shocking that one person can allow this to go on.
I hope that Glenelgs enjoyed there Ceilidh and ceremony
Awful news about the kitten on a road and so tiny. So lucky that the car missed it. What a little cutie it is xx
Thanks Marion for your links today xx
I had meant to include in the post another bird that has unwittingly found itself in the firing line – In some areas of the country anglers are now angry because cormorants are “stealing” “THEIR?” fish?!! Here again (and I apologise if I’m stepping on the toes of any anglers!) some are calling for a cull of the birds. It constantly raises the question of what right do we have to cull, and who decides? Fish to the cormorant are a food source, the anglers are there for “sport” so who should take precedence? the poor cormorant has no choice in the matter – nor a fishing licence………………………………………
Hi Nick, thank you for another thought provoking post. It makes my blood boil to see the persecution of our birds of prey and I would happily dish out the same treatment to their persecutors!
Interestingly, I found this link regarding rats
on your beloved IOM http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-17270261
I also find the question of what should be done about the proliferation of mink that we now have in the countryside resulting from what, in hindsight, was a grossly irresponsible act by the animal rights movement. The mink around here have almost decimated the indigenous wildlife on our canals and riverbanks. Sometimes, it doesn’t seem quite so straightforward for me. As you say, it is entirely the fault of man’s actions and to put it right again has no easy solutions.
Thanks again for a fabulous post. Jane xx
Thanks Jane. Yes, I’ve seen that, and other articles on the rat cull on the Calf, and this is another of those issues that places me at odds with my conscience – I would love to see the opportunity for Manx shearwater to recolonise the Calf, along with the other threatened birds, but but feel slightly ill at ease over killing the rats. The rats apparently first arrived on the Calf from one of a number of shipwrecks many years ago, rather than actually being introduced as such.
Just as a footnote to that, the Manx have it as ill fortune to speak the word “rat” they call them long tails instead, and berate those that say the word aloud!!
good morning nick. Well what a post to read. So well written and saying how it is. I totally understand the need for some culling though. I can’t believe I’m saying that. 5 years ago i wouldn’t have.
Not raining here at the moment so off out for a long walk , see you later,
have a good day everyone.
Dx
Nick – Thank you very much for your thought provoking post this morning. I have never seen a Hen Harrier and maybe because of the habitat they choose, I never will. I think culling is now becoming the ‘in fashion’ solution to anything that interferes with making a quick buck. Why the Badger cull is going ahead, when many experts do not agree that it will achieve the eradication of TB in cattle is very suspect. Is it now a question of the powers that be, do not want to lose face and admit they may be wrong. How arrogant the human race. We are meant to be the superior animal!
On a more happy note, we had a visit this week from my lovely Hastings daughter, with some wonderful news. She and her partner have got engaged! We are both absolutely thrilled for them both. Her ring is beautiful, White gold, an ice Blue Topaz and diamonds. The wedding is planned for late next year, it gives me time to save up for a hat!
Hope all are well,
Love Julie xxx
Congratulations to your daughter and partner Julie. The ring sounds beautiful, you will have to get a pic. xxx
Congratulations Julie to your daughter and her partner – nice to have some happy news xxx
Congratulations to your daughter and her partner xx
What lovely news, Julie
Congratulations to the happy couple!
Awww Julie, wonderful news. Please congratulate them both for me. Your daughters ring sound absolutely beautiful xxx
Good morning.
The fog has cleared and the sun is out. Hopefully David and I will be out with our camera’s today. We know where a beautiful male Hen Harrier is at the moment. David has seen it twice and I saw it last Sat. Unfortunately the lighting was very poor so my pics were not too good. I hope the sun stays out today. It flew past us so close. There are also short eared owls there as well, but they are just keeping their distance at the moment. Fingers crossed xxx
Have a wonderful day Jan, hope you get to see and photograph the Hen Harrier. Glad the sun is shining for you, it’s very dull down here on the south coast.
Love Julie xxx
Not jealous at all Jan………………….

Sounds like a good plan Jan – hope you are lucky and get some good photies!
I love the new look and the four posts at the top are brilliant. Thank you Peter xxx
What four posts Jan
The header from each of the four previous posts flash at the head of the page Jacqs xx
Thanks – I couldn’t see them before but now I can – must have had my eyes shut!

Well Nick – I think everyone else has said what I would say – a very thought provoking piece and some wonderful pictures too.
The problem really is that man has interfered with Nature so much that the natural balance has been destroyed and can never really be reinstated so our very crude solution is to kill the creatures that have got out of proportion. We must learn to work with Nature again and use our knowledge to find more humane solutions.
To be honest I have never forgiven the RSPB for supporting the Ruddy Duck cull. Thousands of innocent birds were slaughtered – so even this high profile organisation is not whiter than whiter when it suits them and herein lies the problem – each group has a vested interest and these interests are so widely differing that finding an answer that satisfies everyone a huge and costly task and sometimes the easy and cheaper way out is taken. And man is an arrogant animal – always thinking he knows best.
Better go as getting annoyed now!
See you later xxx
Thanks Jacqs, you’ve raised a point that I had meant to include in the post, and part of the underlying reason I presented the post in the first place.
I’m acutely aware that many of you have relaxed or cancelled membership of the RSPB. I know that some of their policies seem contradictory to us. As a member myself, I don’t necessarily agree with all of their projects, and there is a degree of arrogance I suppose, because they have become such a large organisation. Overall though, I am supportive of most of their work.
It’s unlikely we can ever put right all that we have meddled with, but the way forward must be to assess each situation with input from all parties involved, and try to arrive at the solutions that best benefit the wildlife, flora and fauna, and the land itself. Maybe a pipe dream, but we can’t allow our wildlife to suffer more of our intolerable, selfish interference.
Jack – How right you are. I used to love to see the little Ruddies xxx
I did too Julie – little stiff-tails!
Good points Jack, I got very annoyed last year when the RSPB agreed the Canada
Geese in the Lake District should be culled because they were annoying visitors
to Lake Windermere. Fortunately the plan was dropped but it didn’t do much
for my confidence in an organisation that should always protect the bird which
all us members like to see thrive.
Dx
I know Deirdre – not good for an organisation that is supposed to be protecting birds.
How is your hair today – is it settling down
That’s the main reason that I’ve not renewed my membership, Jacks
Good morning all I hope everyone is feeling well today, my thoughts got to all who are suffering in any way. xx
NICK. A very interesting topic this morning, and many equally interesting reply’s.
The people who are calling for all these CULLS need to realise one think, the innocent creature that so offends them, acts only out of necessity to live, to feed itself and its young. It does nothing out of malice, or malicious intent. Unlike the human, who maims and murders another humans for any number of selfish, sick, greedy reasons. It makes me ask one question, if it is right to sanction CULLS on Wildlife for doing what they need to do to survive. Why is it then, so unreasonable to have corporal punishment for humans who commit murder, who takes the life of someone’s loved one, is that family not as angry as the farmer or land owner who loses a Pheasant or a Lamb? What right does anyone have to take the life of any living creature?
Sorry if my thoughts offend anyone.
Far from it Elaine, I think you echo most of our own thoughts and feelings on the matter.
Man is driven by selfish greed and arrogance, and by his self imposed importance, and so often at great cost. We have removed much of the means by which our animals survive. Nobody gave us the right to do so, and yet Man still likes to play God.
Dx
Elaine – if you mean capital punishment rather than corporal then for me – it’s got to be a no – because I think as a society we would collectively be sinking to their level and as a decent, humane, and caring society we should be able to rise above that sort of crude solution – however I have never had someone close to me murdered which must be the most terrible thing to bear and perhaps I would feel differently then – I can understand the feelings of those affected.
Hi Jacks, I did mean capital punishment, but I did not mean we should support that in any way, I was trying to point out that it is no different than sanctioning a CULL, to take a life is murder no matter what disguise it wares. I am proud that this country abolished the practice, as I am proud our police officers predominantly patrol our streets without guns.
Yes me too Lainey xxx
Good morning villagers – firstly NICK thank you for the very thought provoking post today – I think the debate will rumble on and on without any proper outcome. With the farmers on one side and the conservationists on the other, the question of the badgers to kill or vaccinate is one that is hard to solve because mainly of the expense. I do agree, however, that culling can only encourage the badger baiters once again, and it will give them carte blanche to do their “worst”, which as we all know is the worst way of destroying this beautiful animal, with the use of their dogs etc. I refer again to a delightful series of books written by Chris Ferris starting with her first one The Darkness is Light Enough, when she tells of her years of liteerally throwing herself into the protection of badgers on her patch. If you haven’t read her books I do recommend them
JULIE I have already sent you my congrats to Tessa by text and again reiterate that here and say that the ring sounds really beautiful – any chance of a pic? I know you and Tim area bsolutely thrilled for her, and as you say with the wedding being next year it gives you time to save for that very special hat! I hope your cough is subsiding now and you are feeling a bit better.
The weather here is dull and grey but so far no rain. I may go on a Fruit and Fungi Foray tomorrow as there is one run by the Essex Wildlife Trust and the Friends of Epping Forest. So keeping fingers crossed that it stays dry today and tonight as the woods where we go are notoriously muddy as the horses churn up the bridlepaths.
Well I’ve just had a lovely phone chat with our Julie and then AOL went AWOL on me! I tried to save this post by highlighting and saving ready to paste onto a new post if I lose this one so fingers crossed it hasn’t disappeared – I will give it a try anyway. The sun is trying to peep out now so bodes well for a fine afternoon so hopefully tomorrow will be dry enough for my walk.
OK going to try and see if this has worked – bye for now, love Jill xxx
Hooray it worked! lol now to go back and read what I’ve missed ….
Lovely to talk to you too Jill. I will try to get a photo of Tessa’s ring. I think you must have sent a bit of your sun our way, it’s just trying to peep through.
Glad you kept your post!
Love me xxx
I’ve read all Chris Ferris’ books Jill and agree they are mostly lovely to read but some of them are just heartbreaking – have tissues at the ready!
Me too JACK – I started reading them on the bus to work but soon realized I needed a tissue or two! It was always good to know that all the names of people and places were withheld to protect them further but I’m sure this goes on in most places where there are woodlands and areas that badgers frequent.
Jill I haven’t read anything by Chris Ferris, so will certainly look out for these
in the future, nice to have books recommended. Sounds a nice idea to go on a Fruit and Fungi Foray tomorrow, our woods at the back already have some fine specimens so you should be in luck, although if you have had the torrential rain we’ve had in the last 36hours it will be muddy believe me. The little piglets at the back of us are now deep in it!!!! will try and get a photo tomorrow again.
Hope AOL is behaving again, as you know we used to have that and gave up LOL!
Dx
I agree with much of what has been said about the culling of wildlife to suit human needs. There are a few situations which benefit the animal but only because we (humans) have hunted their traditional predators to extinction. For instance in the UK we have lost all of our large predators to hunting Brown Bear, Lynx and wolf. These beautiful creatures being at the top of the food chain were our balance for our bigger mammals such as Red Deer. In some areas there is just not enough food in winter to sustain the local deer population. Some land owners have taken to feeding the deer in winter but this is not a viable long term solution as it just allows the population to grow unnaturally and puts pressure on the whole ecosystem of that particular area.
This is only one of the few examples of necessary culling and I do wish that we did not have to go to these lengths to protect the species themselves and their habitat.
We made the mess, we need to clean it up.
Peter
Thanks Peter, that’s exactly how I feel, especially regarding the deer, and as I mentioned, the rats on the Calf Of Man. It places me very much at odds with my own conscience, and makes me feel somewhat hypocritical to hold both views. In those cases, I find it hard to see a clear alternative solution.
We reap what we sow.
I mentioned the other day that Claire brought home two young hedgehogs that were stuck down a cattle grid. Well both are doing fine and are very active now with one putting on 25g in two days the other is yet to gain weight. Well let you guys know how they get on.
It makes you wonder how long they were down the cattle grid Peter, gaining weight
like that they must have been starving.
I follow your sentiments on culling as you say we have made the mess but the
trouble is these days it is too easily sanctioned.
Dx
Glad to hear your hoglets are doing well – do you have a photo of them for us?
Solution to the deer problem – bring back the wolf – being talked about I know but again so many hurdles to surmount first – but wouldn’t it be magical to hear a wolf howl in Scotland again
That’s lovely news about the hedgehogs.
Well done Peter and Claire, I am worried about the Hedgehogs around here as I have not seen any. Last year I was feeding at least three in the back garden and some Hoglets.
Great news Peter that the little hoglets are starting to do well, all thanks to you and Claire xxx
JULIE just read back and see you have described Tessa’s ring. It sounds really
lovely and like Jill hope you get a photo for us. I can imagine how excited
you must be for them and I wish them both a long and happy life together.
Dx
I’m late on here today, as I took Tony for his last Steam Train day for the next few months. We’ve both really enjoyed the day, and taken lots of photos. It was pretty misty first thing, but when the sun came out it warmed up and made a perfect day.
I need to look through the photos first, but I’ll try to put one up later on if I can
Nick – thank you for your thought-provoking post today. I can’t add anything that hasn’t already been said. I agree with you all
Joyce, give Tony our best wishes for next week and tell him we will be thinking
of him. How wonderful to get it done at last and do hope everything goes well
and according to plan. Keep us updated!!
Love Deirdre & Paul x
Yes, best wishes to Tony, you’ve both waited a good while for this, and been through a fair bit in the meantime. Hope all goes well xxx
Will be thinking of you and Tony next week, take care both of you xxx
Hi Jan, did you manage to see the Hen Harrier today? I’ve still only seen just one, albeit brief, sighting here – I really must allow myself enough time at some point, to spend a couple of hours in the hide at the little nature reserve where most of our hen harriers roost. xx
I must have been posting Nick at the same time. We just could not stay there while the p******s were getting ready to shoot. There were a lot of bird watchers keeping an eye of things so I just pray he stays safe. xxx
What the hell were they there to shoot Jan? They surely can’t be trying to shoot protected birds??!! Can they…………….??!!
It will be the poor pheasants and partridges but you know how gun happy they get!! But there were a lot of bird watchers about, I just dont trust anyone with a gun!!
No, I don’t like guns at all, I just don’t understand the shooting for “sport??!!” Some of them can be quite hoity toity too!!
Hi Joyce, glad you and Tony had a lovely day out. Give Tony a hug and wish him well for next week for me. xxx
Good evening all.
I had a good day out with David. We went to North Cave Wetlands first where we saw a beautiful bird ( I will sort the pics tomorrow). Then went to where the Male Hen Harrier and Short Eared Owls are. Unfortunately and much to my disgust there was a shooting party on the other side of the road!!! I just wanted to get away as soon as possible. Where the Harrier and Owls are, the land is owned by Defra so they are not allowed on there. As we travelled further up the the lane on the way out we saw two birds in a field. I have had a problem with the computer tonight as apparently I have filled it with pics LOL. Anyway David has made room but will sort out the pics tomorrow.
These are a few pics that David took two weeks ago of the magnificent Male Hen Harrier. It has a very owl like face.
How anyone could hurt these or any other birds of prey or animals is completely beyond me.
Click on pic to make larger xxx
Jan, they’re cracking pictures!! I’m envious as hell now!! I would love to see their display flight, and the mid-air food exchanges they do, I’ve only seen film footage of them so far. xxx
Me too Nick, I have seen the Marsh Harriers do this. The only other Hen Harriers I have seen were on Ulva when I was on Mull in May. You should go look for them on the IOM they are beautiful birds and getting so rare it is heartbreaking xxx
It is heartbreaking to know that persecution is their biggest threat. I’m not aware of persecution of them here though, so I don’t know why specifically their numbers have fallen. I must try and find out more, but Manx Birdlife are frustratingly difficult to draw information from, they don’t seem terribly forthcoming with information. Last time I contacted them, to raise my concerns about guys fishing close to where the Arctic Terns were nesting, they just told me to keep my distance from ground-nesting birds!! I was like “THAT’S what I’m reporting!!!” The terns abandoned their nests that year, can’t for the life of me think why?!!!! xx
It is like banging your head against a brick wall. Something that did upset me today was that I saw one of the shooting/game keeper/beaters was lifting dogs over the fence, into the Defra land to look for birds I presume they had shot, he then climbed over himself. I took photo’s and will have a good look tomorrow and post them. If they are clear enough I am going to report them to Defra.
Good for you Jan, it’s obvious they know they’re trespassing.
Yes do report them Jan – they know full well they shouldn’t be on that land xxx
Hi Jan. Im so pleased that you and David had a lovely day out. Fantastic pictures, and thank you David. I agree Jan, who can people harm these beautiful birds is beyond me too xxx
What lovely pictures Jan – what a pity you couldn’t get any yourself today but there will be other days I’m sure – such a beautiful bird xxx
Evening All, I did log on a little while ago now, but dozed off, lol
Nick what can I say, another outstanding post today and what a topic you have given us.
I to am against culling, I just hate hearing about it, but absolutely agree with what Peter said, if we hadn’t persecuted a lot of our larger species things would be different. I can understand in certain circumstance there may have to be a cull, especially if a species are going to stave to death because lack of food as the population has grown and grown and there is no predator to fix this balance of nature. There is that old saying called ‘The Circle of Life’ which manages to keep a natural balance in order, but unfortunately it has been broken by who…………. Man.
Love you pics Nick, they are amazing, especially the first one xxxxx
How’s your shoulder today Susan
Hi Jack, not any better. Dont think the jab has done anything. I think my bum has just absorbed it all and kept it, lol
Will go back next week and see what will happen. Dont know if they can give me anymore just now xx
I wonder why it hasn’t worked – may be the docs need to try something else now – would acupuncture help at all
Thanks Susan. That first one is one of my favourites, taken at the Gauntlet raptor centre in Cheshire that Shirley took me to in January. I’d love to get one that good in the wild, it’s different in an enclosure!! xx
It is just stunning Nick. I know what you mean about getting a pic like that in the wild, but think we need bigger lenses than what we have, lol
Where’s Mr Big Lens when you need him, lol xx
Night night everyone – sweet dreams – hope the Cove is still blue xxx